Is Mr. Krabs Really More Greedy in Post Than Pre?

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Mr. Krabs sells SpongeBob's soul, defies a grave to sell a soda hat and hides a man' body who he thinks is dead in pre-movie episodes. Yet people still say Krabs is more greedier in post movie episodes. I get that Mr. Krabs is cheap the the point where he looks for a penny for a whole episode. He use to be a father figure of SB, but money is all he thinks about now, yes I know. But doesn't it seem like those few deeds in pre-movie are even more greedier? Yes, Krabs apologies to SpongeBob at the end of Born Again Krabs, but only because Squidward told him he should do so. It's kind of like how Squidward abuse was in pre-movie seasons. We had episodes like the Camping Episode, yet you barely see anyone riff off of it for the abuse. What do you think?
 
Yeah, this is one of those complaints I don't really understand. Mr. Krabs has always been extremely cheap. That's his thing. When people bring it up as an example of his character degradation I think, "Hello? Did we all just forget the time he sold SpongeBob's soul for 62 cents in a heartbeat?"

I agree that Krabs has been through changes, but I don't think it's because he got stingier. It's more that his paternal side is lacking sometimes and he can come across as less caring than he used to. He's always been obsessed with money but I think in the earlier episodes they did a better job of balancing that with his father figure side.
 
I don't think Krabs is really greedier in post-movie than he was in pre-movie. The problem is that there's no longer anything to balance it out. In pre-movie Mr. Krabs served as a father figure to SpongeBob and obviously cared for him. Now he rarely if ever shows that side of himself. There's no balance anymore, so his bad traits seem more prominent than they used to be.
 
The difference is that money wasn't Mr. Krabs's whole personality and that, along with the Camping Episode, it was funny.

SpongeBob's comedy rides a slippery slope where if you're going to do a cliched joke like Mr. Krabs's money lust or abusing Squidward, you have to literally exaggerate things to a point where they're so ridiculous that they're funny. The pre-movie seasons handle that ridiculousness well. If "The Camping Episode" was done now, the Post-Movie writers, no offense meant to them, would most likely have the episode mostly focused on SpongeBob and Patrick annoying Squidward in the tent and end with Squidward going crazy and running back home. That's not funny, that's just abusing a character. If you are going to abuse a character, go all the way, which is what "The Campinge Episode" did- SpongeBob and Patrick did a whole song, Squidward got mauled by a Sea Bear for no other reason than "it was funny", and against all odds, he failed at even making a tent.

That's so ridiculous that it's funny. It's the same with Eugene. Eugene going to such lengths to get 62 cents from the Dutchman- literally selling SpongeBob's soul- is so ridiculous and stupid on his part that it was funny, and even if it wasn't, Krabs apologized at the end, which was nice and rectified what he did. This is different from "Penny Foolish" because PF doesn't go as far as it needed to. Eugene makes a slideshow and a movie theater and stalks SpongeBob for a penny in PF, and that's relatively tame. And because nothing is so stupidly outlandish or funny in that episode, the comedy falls flat and people look at the character flaws Krabs presents in the episode. If Krabs had, say, made a dramatic short film, or even kidnapped SpongeBob (in a non-creepy way, of course) the episode would have been funny because of how ridiculous it was.

Eugene was always cheap. Just less so in Pre-Movie, but that's not even the problem. The problem now is that Mr. Krabs's money fetish isn't ridiculous anymore. It's just a tired joke that's swallowed up his character, and thus, it feels perfunctory, and because it's so tame, but at the same time, all he does, it feels more realistic. Add to the fact that money love and cheapness are two of, if not Mr. Krabs only traits that he portrays, non-outlandishly, in almost every episode, whereas Pre-Movie, he wasn't always cheap and when he was, it was so ridiculous it was funny? Yeah. It's definitely worse Post-Movie.

SpongeBob is an animated comedy. If things aren't pushed to their very limit at the right time, the comedy falls flat.

EDIT: oh, Safe Deposit Krabs is a terrific example of Mr. Krabs's money lust played insanely well. Having hallucinations with a money wife and a money dragon was great and totally out there, and something I'd like to see more of in the show.
 
I don't think it's his greediness that got worse in post-movie, but the way he deals with his greediness. Greed-caused crimes caused by Mr. Krabs makes some bad episodes.
 
I think Krabs was always greedy and cheap like that, he had his moments, but I will always say- no matter Post or Pre movie- Mr. Krabs is the worst character. The fact that he sold SB's soul for 63 cents was a huge jerk move, I always hated that part. But still, no matter Pre-Movie or Post-Movie, I think he's equally cheap.
 
Jibbix said:
The difference is that money wasn't Mr. Krabs's whole personality and that, along with the Camping Episode, it was funny.

SpongeBob's comedy rides a slippery slope where if you're going to do a cliched joke like Mr. Krabs's money lust or abusing Squidward, you have to literally exaggerate things to a point where they're so ridiculous that they're funny. The pre-movie seasons handle that ridiculousness well. If "The Camping Episode" was done now, the Post-Movie writers, no offense meant to them, would most likely have the episode mostly focused on SpongeBob and Patrick annoying Squidward in the tent and end with Squidward going crazy and running back home. That's not funny, that's just abusing a character. If you are going to abuse a character, go all the way, which is what "The Campinge Episode" did- SpongeBob and Patrick did a whole song, Squidward got mauled by a Sea Bear for no other reason than "it was funny", and against all odds, he failed at even making a tent.

That's so ridiculous that it's funny. It's the same with Eugene. Eugene going to such lengths to get 62 cents from the Dutchman- literally selling SpongeBob's soul- is so ridiculous and stupid on his part that it was funny, and even if it wasn't, Krabs apologized at the end, which was nice and rectified what he did. This is different from "Penny Foolish" because PF doesn't go as far as it needed to. Eugene makes a slideshow and a movie theater and stalks SpongeBob for a penny in PF, and that's relatively tame. And because nothing is so stupidly outlandish or funny in that episode, the comedy falls flat and people look at the character flaws Krabs presents in the episode. If Krabs had, say, made a dramatic short film, or even kidnapped SpongeBob (in a non-creepy way, of course) the episode would have been funny because of how ridiculous it was.

Eugene was always cheap. Just less so in Pre-Movie, but that's not even the problem. The problem now is that Mr. Krabs's money fetish isn't ridiculous anymore. It's just a tired joke that's swallowed up his character, and thus, it feels perfunctory, and because it's so tame, but at the same time, all he does, it feels more realistic. Add to the fact that money love and cheapness are two of, if not Mr. Krabs only traits that he portrays, non-outlandishly, in almost every episode, whereas Pre-Movie, he wasn't always cheap and when he was, it was so ridiculous it was funny? Yeah. It's definitely worse Post-Movie.

SpongeBob is an animated comedy. If things aren't pushed to their very limit at the right time, the comedy falls flat.

EDIT: oh, Safe Deposit Krabs is a terrific example of Mr. Krabs's money lust played insanely well. Having hallucinations with a money wife and a money dragon was great and totally out there, and something I'd like to see more of in the show.
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I agree. It's not if it happens, it's how it happens, at least in my personal opinion.
 
DadMom AngryPants said:
I agree that Krabs has been through changes, but I don't think it's because he got stingier. It's more that his paternal side is lacking sometimes and he can come across as less caring than he used to. He's always been obsessed with money but I think in the earlier episodes they did a better job of balancing that with his father figure side.
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You stole what I was going to say. :P

But, yes, I concur, it's not so much that he's become greedier as it is that some of his more redeeming qualities have been scrapped, making the aforementioned greed stick out like a sore thumb in a way it didn't before.
 
In Born Again Krabs Squidward told him to apologise, but Mr Krabs had really regret. In most post-movies he also apologise sometimes, but not from the heart.
 
I'd say that Mr. Krabs was always greedy and would do vicious things for money in both pre and post. Krabs did horrid things in pre-movie like in "One Krabs Trash" and "Born Again Krabs" and they were pretty bad. He kinda went too far with those.
 
DadMom AngryPants said:
Yeah, this is one of those complaints I don't really understand. Mr. Krabs has always been extremely cheap. That's his thing. When people bring it up as an example of his character degradation I think, "Hello? Did we all just forget the time he sold SpongeBob's soul for 62 cents in a heartbeat?"

I agree that Krabs has been through changes, but I don't think it's because he got stingier. It's more that his paternal side is lacking sometimes and he can come across as less caring than he used to. He's always been obsessed with money but I think in the earlier episodes they did a better job of balancing that with his father figure side.
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I get the complaint. Hello, ''Hooky'' anybody? In the general overall of the SEASONS, pre-movie Krabs is less greedier than post-movie Krabs but in others ways and I'll explain my views on it. I don't get when people who try to defend the show any way possible always bring up the episode where he sells SpongeBob soul, blah... but he learns a lesson in the episode.

Personally, the true Mr. Krabs was in Season 1, in my opinion. It is true that Krabs was always greedy, don't get me wrong, they state that since the beginning. But I'll explain my opinion.

The real problem with Krabs is though, they brought out more of his greedy side and basically made it his character... it's stale now, it's predictable. His other qualities that he had... have greatly dimmed. People seem to forget that nearly (not all, but nearly) all of Krabs screen time have something to do with cents or money in post-movie seasons. Least in pre-movie, we saw more of his other sides. In pre-movie, we saw more depth to Krabs. In Krusty Love, we see his greedy side but we also see his soft side... we basically had to see Mr. Krabs fight his obsession with money and basically even had it layered with the feeling of love for Puffs. Which basically tells us there is more to life than money... I like that episode because it shows us that there are more sides to Krabs that we can look at. Hooky was another brilliant episode that actually made me really like Krabs when it first aired... he basically cared so much for SpongeBob, trying to stop him from playing with the hooks because he didn't want to see his favorite employe get hurt or killed, going to the point of scaring him to teach him a lesson. You don't see much of that anymore in Krabs. If we saw more soft and warming qualities in Krabs and more of the fatherly figure he showed (most shown in Season 1), he would be accepted more currently.

DMAP, that's why people call Mr. Krabs more greedier now. Because to their eyes, that's all they see now and will think he actually he is more greedy. Even if it is the same amount of greedy, it still has everything else almost completely stripped out. And there is no doubt in seeing that most of his other qualities that made the character so lovable and great in the first place are *nearly* non-existent now.

For me, there are also other reasons why I dislike Mr. Krabs... but that wouldn't go with the topic of greed, as suggested in this topic title. Like I said, for me, the real Krabs was S1 Krabs. Same with Patrick.

It's so funny to see people try to set flames to pre-movie when post-movie is brought up. Nether era is perfect but I think most of us will agree that pre-movie is better. It's what set the standards, the foundation, and grounds. It IS SpongeBob, what he was first. There is no lying in the point that the two eras seem really different from each other. I think it's due to adapting to the audience... I don't agree with the move but it still makes money in merch, even if the ratings are slightly beginning to decline. There is no denying that when it comes to SpongeBob, pre-movie is nearly almost always brought up. It's what most people remember... the memes you find on the internet are nearly almost pre-movie. When people quote SpongeBob, it's nearly always pre-movie. Pre-movie means a lot to people, old fans and even new fans versus the post-movie with nearly only the new fans (since some of the older fans went their ways) and people care about the show so much that it really saddens them and they feel the need to vent. It's fandom. But pre-movie will set a milestone, in my opinion... I think in 20 years, people are going to remember the three pre-movie seasons more than the six or perhaps more post-movie seasons. Pre-movie is more memorable and is generally more received by people.
 
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