Any more Thoughts & Theories for, or on, "SB 129?"

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This episode has me thinking for sometime now, I did post this on the episode discussion board, some of you may remember seeing this comment already, It remained covered in dust so I thought I would make it a stand alone topic.

one had traveled through time and returned. But the other is still frozen! So while our Squidward, [Squidward #1] is still living his crazy life, and triumph over his rival in Band Geeks. The other Squidward, [Squidward #2] is still trapped in the freezer, and will never know this....ri..right?

Do you think there should be a sequel to this?

Should they, or will they, ever discover the second Squidward in the freezer? And what would happen if they made contact with each other? What *WOULD* happen? What are your thoughts on this?

I might be looking in to deep, but I just got curious.
 
If they found freezer Squidward, it would cause some kind of time paradox. Because Squidward is thawed before he got to the future and use the time machine, Jellyfish fishing are never invented, thus SpongeBob never learn about it and might ends up as a less cheerful person.
 
This is a really good topic! Good lord, I forgot about Squidward stuck in a freezer for 2,000 years.

Because Squidward went back to his present day at the end of the episode, he was free to enjoy life again. Somehow this other Squidward who was frozen (we'll call him Frozen Squid and the other Present Squid) never appeared in other episodes in the freezer. Probably because faulty continuing references, that's the best I can come up with.

Remember in Back to the Past? The Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy who went back in time eventually DIED because SB & Pat left them there. That's seriously one of the more morbid SB stories out there! (I'm surprised S̶B̶ was able to forgive himself after that though, being the big fan of the guy he is.) Nevertheless, both MM & BBs from both time eras were clearly able to live together and have no time paradox. Plus remember all those S̶B̶ and Pats at the end who came together from different periods of time? So time paradox is definitely not the issue here.

I think the thing is, the Krusty Krab Crew could have buried Frozen Squid in a cemetery. Similar to the episode Nasty Patty. Even though he could have been easily thawed out, it doesn't make sense to have two of Squidward right? Because two of the same people can't have different mines and be a clone of each other or can they because of human/fish rights right?! :wetpaint:

Okay bad theory, but it's still a good guess. My last idea is somehow the Frozen Squid just "poofed" away unexplained. This makes no sense as I said earlier that time paradox are not likely to happen. That and even though it hates me to say this and I feel like it's the easy way out to the question.... it's a continuing error or as everyone says "it's just a cartoon". :wetpaint: With all the times the show has not explained things throughly enough, this makes sense. It's just one of those things that as hard as you try, you're not likely to find an answer. (Or at least me. Especially with my thread about how a visit to the medieval ages made it possible for the KP secret formula to be both a family and Krabs original recipe.)

And let's talk about the whole thing about jellyfishing. Clearly S̶B̶ and Pat can be seen doing so in past episodes like of course, Jellyfishing. :p The thing that gets me with time traveling is this... does time travel work where if you live in the past and your future self did altered the past (or present your time) but have YET to do it in your time, does it effect you? Like for example....

Because someone goes back in the past and changes it, do they alter past events with friends? So when we were watching the episode Jellyfishing, was it considered the invention of Squidward yet? (And if S̶B̶ and Patrick know, you think that Squidward would be flooded by fan boys from various jellyfishing expos all the time. Maybe he is.) I don't think it was his invention yet, because Squidward hadn't went in the past and change jellyfishing yet.
 
✰ Cha said:
This is a really good topic! Good lord, I forgot about Squidward stuck in a freezer for 2,000 years.

Because Squidward went back to his present day at the end of the episode, he was free to enjoy life again. Somehow this other Squidward who was frozen (we'll call him Frozen Squid and the other Present Squid) never appeared in other episodes in the freezer. Probably because faulty continuing references, that's the best I can come up with.

Remember in Back to the Past? The Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy who went back in time eventually DIED because SB & Pat left them there. That's seriously one of the more morbid SB stories out there! (I'm surprised S̶B̶ was able to forgive himself after that though, being the big fan of the guy he is.) Nevertheless, both MM & BBs from both time eras were clearly able to live together and have no time paradox. Plus remember all those S̶B̶ and Pats at the end who came together from different periods of time? So time paradox is definitely not the issue here.

I think the thing is, the Krusty Krab Crew could have buried Frozen Squid in a cemetery. Similar to the episode Nasty Patty. Even though he could have been easily thawed out, it doesn't make sense to have two of Squidward right? Because two of the same people can't have different mines and be a clone of each other or can they because of human/fish rights right?! :wetpaint:

Okay bad theory, but it's still a good guess. My last idea is somehow the Frozen Squid just "poofed" away unexplained. This makes no sense as I said earlier that time paradox are not likely to happen. That and even though it hates me to say this and I feel like it's the easy way out to the question.... it's a continuing error or as everyone says "it's just a cartoon". :wetpaint: With all the times the show has not explained things throughly enough, this makes sense. It's just one of those things that as hard as you try, you're not likely to find an answer. (Or at least me. Especially with my thread about how a visit to the medieval ages made it possible for the KP secret formula to be both a family and Krabs original recipe.)

And let's talk about the whole thing about jellyfishing. Clearly S̶B̶ and Pat can be seen doing so in past episodes like of course, Jellyfishing. :P The thing that gets me with time traveling is this... does time travel work where if you live in the past and your future self did altered the past (or present your time) but have YET to do it in your time, does it effect you? Like for example....

Because someone goes back in the past and changes it, do they alter past events with friends? So when we were watching the episode Jellyfishing, was it considered the invention of Squidward yet? (And if S̶B̶ and Patrick know, you think that Squidward would be flooded by fan boys from various jellyfishing expos all the time. Maybe he is.) I don't think it was his invention yet, because Squidward hadn't went in the past and change jellyfishing yet.
Wait a minute, I'm confuzzed
do ya imply that frozen Squidward is different from the Squidward before the incident? Becuase they're the same squid, so how would they bury frozen Squidward? :P
Or I may be missing something but my personal thought is that when Squidward was back in the future/prehistoric, time was "Stopped" in the present.
 
Wait a minute, I'm confuzzed
do ya imply that frozen Squidward is different from the Squidward before the incident? Becuase they're the same squid, so how would they bury frozen Squidward? :P
Or I may be missing something but my personal thought is that when Squidward was back in the future/prehistoric, time was "Stopped" in the present.
Squidward went back in time to be the present. Just because he goes back in time doesn't mean his past self (aka frozen Squidward) would vanish. At least that's what I think.
 
✰ Cha said:
Squidward went back in time to be the present. Just because he goes back in time doesn't mean his past self (aka frozen Squidward) would vanish. At least that's what I think.
You have to remember Squidward goes 2000 years later because frozen Squidward, so I'd agree with ya. I just don't think frozen and regular are two seperate Squids personally. :P
 
You have to remember Squidward goes 2000 years later because frozen Squidward, so I'd agree with ya. I just don't think frozen and regular are two seperate Squids personally. :P
Well it's like this Squidward lives in the future right now because he's aged 2,000 years right? Therefore by going in the past, there would have to be a Squidward from the past as well right? In Back to the Past, there was the present older MM & BB and the younger ones from the past. There's no difference in Squidward's situation either.
 
✰ Cha said:
Well it's like this Squidward lives in the future right now because he's aged 2,000 years right? Therefore by going in the past, there would have to be a Squidward from the past as well right? In Back to the Past, there was the present older MM & BB and the younger ones from the past. There's no difference in Squidward's situation either.
Hmm? I somewhat get what you're saying
The reason why I think Squidward is the same person the whole episode is because over 2000 years, he had the same persoanlity and went through a (rather comfortable) time machine. As for prehistoric him, Squog was already in UGH... or are we thinking UGH takes place after prehistoric SB-129?
 
Hmm? I somewhat get what you're saying
The reason why I think Squidward is the same person the whole episode is because over 2000 years, he had the same persoanlity and went through a (rather comfortable) time machine. As for prehistoric him, Squog was already in UGH... or are we thinking UGH takes place after prehistoric SB-129?
Actually when I say past Squidward I meant his frozen self. Squog was probably around much later than the prehistoric S̶B̶ & Pat we saw in S̶B̶-129 because SpongeGar- getting OT. XD
 
✰ Cha said:
Remember in Back to the Past? The Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy who went back in time eventually DIED because SB & Pat left them there. That's seriously one of the more morbid SB stories out there! (I'm surprised S̶B̶ was able to forgive himself after that though, being the big fan of the guy he is.)
Well technically it was just Patrick who left them there, SpongeBob even said to him, "What about Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy?" In fact, it was pretty much solely Patrick who caused the events of the episode, SpongeBob just happened to get caught up in it all

I'd like to think that maybe Squidward warned SpongeBob not to go in there?
People have said the freezer has appeared in a number of episodes, maybe it was a different freezer. Because when Squidward was initially frozen, nobody apparently opened it for 2000 years, so it's safe to say that any freezer seen in subsequent episodes is a different freezer. Squidward probably didn't touch it because he wanted to avoid a time paradox

Then again, there's those episodes where The Krusty Krab gets destroyed. Maybe in the SB timeline, this is actually the last episode to take place before the movie. Then maybe later, after The Krusty Krab 2 opened, the original closed down because the new one was making more money (idk, use your imaginations, people :P). Having an empty abandoned Krusty Krab would explain exactly why the freezer wasn't touched for so long
 
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